Some good news for Labour
http://politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/2008/11/10/populus-has-tory-lead-down-to-6/
Quote from the post above on politicalbetting.com:
"CONSERVATIVES 41% (-4)
LABOUR 35% (+5)
LIB DEMS 16% (+1)
In what is by far and away the best poll for Labour for more than six months the November Populus poll for the Times has last month's Tory lead of 15% down to just 6%. This is a very big change and means that the pollster is showing a very different picture from ICM which reported at the weekend. Putting these numbers into the UK Polling Report seat calculator and we get CON 302: LAB 292: LD 27 seats - so Brown's party is just seats behind and Cameron is 23 seats short of an overall majority."
posted by Luke Akehurst at 9:01 pm
7 Comments:
Of course Brown is enjoying his bounce, but when the dust settles his irresponsibility over the last decade will become clearer than ever.
10:07 am, November 11, 2008
And that's coming from a Tory?
What about Nigel Lawson s Economic miracle, that actually bankrupted the Country? I am not defending Labour, but the Tories have no right to criticise when they allowed an unsustainable economy of service industry and finance riding out on overinflated house prices. Squandering North sea Oil revenue and selling off all our assets that made a profit. Remember the Bitch that sold 3 cemeteries for 15 pence each and then fled to Israel with £3oo million pounds of public money? If that happened in any other part of the World she would have faced life imprisonment or even execution!
1:15 pm, November 11, 2008
Mark, Nigel Lawson has nothing on Brown. Yes the tories messed up but no where near the same scale as this.
We are seeing a financial crash way of the scale of anything that has happened since the second world war.
When the dust settles and people start to feel the real consequences then you will realise what is coming.
True unemployment is at record levels and we are facing a massive bill and I just want to know how the hell we are planning on paying for it. Brown promises tax cuts but you can bet these will come in the form of tax credits which will leave millions of people not getting a dime but seeing their tax bills rise.
Labour have still to grasp that it is working people who are not entitled to benefits that are feeling the full effect of the slump. These are the people with huge mortgages, these are the people not entitled to warm front grants and these are the people paying for the bailouts.
2:05 pm, November 11, 2008
The simple fact is that this is markets driven linked to masking ways to generate money that was never there in the first place.
No government could call time on it, as to call time would require the government to know the extent of the problems with fictitious capital.
The markets couldn't determine the extent of the laundered bad debt and now everyone is picking up the pieces.
Predicting the utterly unpredictable requires clairvoyants, and Mandelson is good but even he is not that good so it's now serious people for serious times.
3:02 pm, November 11, 2008
Rich
Both Tory and labour are responsible for this crisis, the Tories started Neo Conservative policies closing down industries replacing it with service and finance industries. In the place of Factories came Supermarkets and Nasty cheap built expensively priced yuppie housing.
Then the party who claimed the boom and bust policies were now finished in 1997, continued with these stupid Tory policies riding on the back of astronomical housing inflation, as if it was a good thing? The sub prime mortgage market was not confined to the USA it was here, only a loan shark would let you borrow 10x times your income, but the banks were doing it?
Its obvious this bounce Gordon has will soon be pulled back down by the gravity of recession. These tax cuts are just another gimmick and easing the pressure until after the election-to do this will take even billions of pounds of expensive borrowed money.
10:38 pm, November 11, 2008
So you are saying the government honestly thought house price inflation was sustainable. I knew it wasn't so why didn't the government. Vince Cable predicted it and so did John Molton from Alchemy.
Both people warned the government two years ago about the sub prime market hear and in the USA. Brown refused to listen and refused to regulate the banks.
So the government had the information all they are doing now is putting a nice spin on all this.
10:44 am, November 12, 2008
Rich
So you are saying the government honestly thought house price inflation was sustainable.
Surely they can't be that stupid as they earn around 20x times my salary and I knew that years and years ago and I tried to tell them in 1999, what they were heading for?
9:42 pm, November 12, 2008
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