Christine Shawcroft lost last night's parliamentary selection in Nottingham South. Proof once again that in supposedly "left" CLPs the usual story is of a very small activist base, and that once you consult the whole membership you get a sensible result.
Not necessarily. I think people choose candidates for all sorts of reasons and political stance is only one of them. Not all of Stephen Twigg's supporters in West Derby are similar to him politically, and constituencies sometimes choose people on the grounds of their local record.
ReplyDeleteMind you, I am surprised that any left-wing candidates are getting chosen since so many left wingers have left the party in any case.
I don't know anything at all about the candidate chosen, but I sometimes think it would be a good idea to ban all selections of union apparatchiks and lawyers!
More broadly, I have been 'moved constituencies' next time, and whilst I will be in a safe Labour seat, I wouldn't ever consider voting for the sitting MP. Hopefully he will step down! But I don't think that many voters look at candidates that closely
Luke, you are almost right. Most of the activists in Nottingham South supported Lilian with second preference votes when Katrina Bull, their preferred candidate fell away.
ReplyDeleteAll Christine's votes came from Alan Simpson's lovies who are all as active as Alan when it comes to campaigning...
"you get a sensible result."
ReplyDeletethey selected someone near Compass (or at least she blogged she would join Compass group of MPs if elected)..I thought you didn't like them either
Get in!
ReplyDeleteYeah people with Luke's type of uber-Blairite politics aren't doing massively well in internal elections these days (remind us again where Hazel Blears finished in the DL election). And it wasn't as if Shawcroft was thrashed - she finished well ahead of the most Blairite candidate.
ReplyDeleteThis was a close result, and candidates who win close results would be best advised to take heed of the breadth of party opinion (including that of the Left) in the way they then conduct themselves.
But a centre-left Compass candidate did win, didn't they Luke, with the Blairite far behind. What does that tell you?
ReplyDeleteDon't upset Luke's hands-over-the-ears "wooh-ooh-ooh can't hear you, it's still 1997 in my head" mantra now will you
ReplyDeleteI have no idea who the other two candidates were. The fact that local members stopped one of the key national personalities on the Hard Left, who had been working that seat for several years, from getting into Parliament, is good enough for me.
ReplyDeleteShawcroft was her usual flakey self at the selection meeting last night and Lilian Greenwood took the selection. My friend only moved to the CLP a couple of years ago and had never met Christine before. He kept notes on all the candidates performances and for Christine wrote
ReplyDelete'speech - largely irrelevant lacking detail, complacent, casual attitude almost flippant', then at the end he wrote 'lazy and disorganised contribution'.
One could add the same of her run up campaign to the selection meeting - didn't knock on my door once or phone, just a couple of leaflets (mostly covered in endorsements)and two letters from the sitting MP effectively stating he wanted a 'mini-me'.
Well, just to clarify Luke. Katrina Bull was I understand the Number One choice of the New Labour right and being championed by John Heppell. Greenwood is Compass-inclined. Not the result I wanted. But better than the one you did.
ReplyDeleteSusan - as I said on your own blog. You don't know Katrina Bull, have no idea of her views, which I would describe as center left (against Nuclear Energy/Academies etc)
ReplyDeleteWhy would you smear someone because they know another Nottingham MP?
What odds that Christine will never be seen in Nottingham South again?
ReplyDelete"once you consult the whole membership you get a sensible result" - sometimes true, and if not, you can easily just change the rules/nullify the selection process/get Clare Short to make a conference speech, eh...
ReplyDeleteAnother Compass MP. Brilliant news!
ReplyDeleteWell obviously I was supporting Christine so am disappointed - but congratulations to Lillian; hope she gets in and makes an excellent MP. Commiserations to Katrina Bull as well.
ReplyDeleteI hope Christine finds another seat (I don't know whether or not she's 'in the market'). She would be a superb addition to the PLP.
Anyway, I have can take some small consolation from the fact that it wasn't right-wing members, smear campaigns or even just the way these things sometimes go that denied the selection to Christine, it was Luke's relationship with the Almighty!
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If you don’t believe me, then copy this entry and run it by any professor of economics or socio-economics. Then tell a friend. Call the local radio station. Re-post this entry or put it in your own words. Be one of the first to predict the worst economic and cultural crisis of all time and explain its cause. WE ARE IN BIG TROUBLE.
ReplyDeleteor it just because the "whole membership" contains a lot of cunts like Luke?
ReplyDeleteI wonder what sort of 'sensible result' the voters will determine at the next general election. Bet it's not one Luke would like!
ReplyDeleteAnd Lillian is an active Compass member which will no doubt impress you greatly.
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