A blog by Luke Akehurst about politics, elections, and the Labour Party - With subtitles for the Hard of Left. Just for the record: all the views expressed here are entirely personal and do not necessarily represent the positions of any organisations I am a member of.

Monday, December 08, 2008

Manchester's c-charge vote

Just as Boris dismantles the western extension to the congestion charge zone, Manchester is going to vote on 11 December on going in the opposite direction:



Blogger Jim Jepps said...

I'm glad to see Labour supporting this locally (as well as nationally) and I think the youtube vid is a nice touch

1:15 pm, December 08, 2008

Anonymous Anonymous said...

There is also a video about the future of transport in Manchester here: http://www.21centurytransport.com

2:06 pm, December 08, 2008

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Labour in death spiral.

Daily Mail poll to be released shows:

Cons 43%
Lab 27%
Limps 17%

The result is very much due to Labour's education programme which has succeeded in dumbing down every poor bastard living on less than £15,000 a year.

3:30 pm, December 08, 2008

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I wonder what New Order think of their music being used for this video.

8:44 pm, December 08, 2008

Anonymous Anonymous said...

The congestion charge will in the end make the poorest motorist even poorer and create a two tier road system.

There is very little evidence to suggest that road charging in the UK has any positive outcome in terms of reducing congestion. Even in London the impact was short lived and people soon got tired of using very expensive crowded and unreliable public transport.

I can't see how a Labour government can honestly have the nerve to charge motorists yet at the same time approve the expansion of British airports. Then set another C02 target that they will never achieve.

Yes we need greener transport but why doesn't the government approach this in a more positive manner rather than using tax all the time. Why not make commuting FREE or tax deductible if its green.

It seems to me that this government is just looking at other ways of making us even poorer and has no concern for our planet at all.

9:24 pm, December 08, 2008

Blogger Merseymike said...

Anyone who has had to deal with Manchester traffic will know that something has to be done. Once again, I hear nothing from opponents of a congestion charge what their alternative is.

The money FROM the congestion charge will pay for additional public transport. Without doing something about the traffic problems, spending more on public transport will not be sensible. The two things need to happen together. The money has to come from somewhere. Again, no alternatives suggested.

3:47 pm, December 09, 2008

Blogger Chris Paul said...

WE don't call it C-Charge up here though Luke. It's not the same. It's peak only and peak flow only and it follows the better part of £3 Billion of infrastructure improvements.

Calling it C-Charge - as local media have tended to do is an invidious limiting of the debate to drivers and a negative for everyone.

Perhaps anon 8:44 could get Ofcom onto the case and has this video pulled too?

Whereas £3 Billion of improvements with limited charging when it's all fixed is so much better.

5:56 pm, December 09, 2008

Blogger city76 said...

There already is an answer - personal rapid transit (PRT). The first system's being installed at Heathrow. Description on youtube at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7hgipbHBK8

5:39 pm, December 10, 2008

Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Manchester C-Charge has been rejected by a 4-1 margin in all ten local boroughs.

1:56 pm, December 12, 2008

Blogger Merseymike said...

So, carry on congestion and queues - I'm afraid people will have to learn that the luxury of the personal drive to work in peak hours is simply not feasible.

I would expect far more draconian compulsion in the future.

11:35 pm, December 12, 2008

Anonymous Anonymous said...

And the people of Manchester so No.....now watch this vile Labour government override British democracy and force it down their necks......as they did Europe.

12:22 pm, December 13, 2008

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I would expect far more draconian compulsion in the future

Instead of coercion, how about sorting out the public transport options first, rather than making promises that clearly the the vast majority of Manucians did not believe? As for 'draconian compulsion', who do you think is going to vote for that? Or is an end to democracy part of Labour's strategy?

11:50 pm, December 14, 2008


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