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Tuesday, October 31, 2006

Compass and Iraq

The current thread running on the Compass website here really does expose the leaders of that organisation for the sanctimonious, humbug-ridden, pompous, "me-too"ist bandwagon jumpers they are.

Read it for the trite, a-historical drivel and self-indulgent path-of-least-resistance hand-wringing by the Compassites - whose argument seems to consist of little other than "War is bad, America bad, Blair evil, Israel evil. dictatorships in far away countries are none of our business, Iraqi democrats are bad by association 'cos they are backed by the UK and USA".

And read it for the demolition job done on their arguments by Stan Rosenthal and "Seasider".
Coming soon to a branch party near you - the Compass 12 clause resolution on Iraq. Though this is unlikely in most branches as the number of these people who are actually Labour Party activists - as opposed to armchair ranters - is minimal.

And what gems it contains - "full and free elections cannot be held in a country under enemy occupation" - erm... tell that to the Germans or Japanese who held perfectly democratic elections whilst occupied.


Blogger Hughes Views said...

Sometimes I long for a parallel universe in which the Iraq war hadn't happened but Saddam H had gone on to use WMD perhaps against the Kurds. Wouldn't it be nice to read the Compass and similar smart-arse groups’ tirades berating our government and the USA for 'ignoring the warnings'

11:40 am, October 31, 2006

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Perhaps you might be aware of the "arms to iraq" and matrix churchill scandals- the collusion of thatcher and Major's governments in arming Saddam to the teeth, Rumsfeld meeting Saddam in 1983 to resume diplomatic and logistical support against Iran? only to change their mind a few years later because they had lost control of their monster... (in fact the last arms sale by the US to saddam prior to the '91 gulf war was about one month prior to Saddam's invasion of kuweit)
I'm Sure the Labour party will get in again with people like you saying "Iraq was correct"... NOT!!
get a life.

11:41 am, October 31, 2006

Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Enemy" occupation? Presumably that refers to Kurdistan under the Ba'ath?

11:44 am, October 31, 2006

Blogger El Dave. said...

Hughes Views - Saddam did use WMD against the Kurds. Gas, in the Anfal campaign. The west sold him the constituents.

12:01 pm, October 31, 2006

Anonymous Anonymous said...

What the hell is wrong with you people? Idiots4labour are running on this too, but I don't think they like you much either.

anyway, as I was saying:

"these contributions are intended to create real debate and discussion around the key issues facing the democratic left - however the views expressed in this article are not a statement of Compass policy."

ifthis guy wants to circulate a resolution, so be it.

1:58 pm, October 31, 2006

Anonymous Anonymous said...

yes hugh. Because Saddam had lot of those WMD.

Fair point, he had the capacity to make them, but name me a murderous dicatator that doesn't?

Besides, WMD was the basis of a vote, and the basis of the UN resolution that spplied the skeleton legality of this endeavour; not the capacity to make them. What do you thin kwould have happened if we had framed the debate correctly?

2:01 pm, October 31, 2006

Blogger Bloggers4Labour said...

What I don't understand is why, after the many millions of blog posts on Iraq - many fine examples appearing in our own Recommended list - Compass feels it has to commission a new piece which is, frankly, rubbish. Why should we waste our time reading the political fantasies of someone who thinks TB is a war criminal when Norm - to name just one - has covered every moral aspect many times over, and in a way that doesn't make us feel cheapened to have read them?

The worry is that someone like Lee could easily be an MP, merrily harping on about the "the rules and spirit" of the League of Nations (sorry, the UN)

8:21 pm, October 31, 2006

Blogger Sham said...

All these calls for inquiries and impeachment are an absolute disgrace.

Thankfully they lost the vote today. I've had a go at Cameron over this issue on my blog.

8:37 pm, October 31, 2006


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